Stoned and Drunk is a Deadly Combination

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It’s Not Either Or — Many Drivers are Both Stoned and Drunk

Read Part 1  For Ansley Rayborn, 14, it was a fatal decision to go into the car with another teenager who had been drinking and smoking pot.  Ansley was a freshman at Chiles High School in Florida.   She was spending the night at a friend’s house when the two girls met up with other kids.  The 15-year-old driver was stoned, drunk and only had a learner’s permit.  Ansley died while the driver and three other teens escaped from the crash with minor injuries.

The hit-and-run driver in a six-vehicle accident in Denver on the morning of August 3 was high on both pot and alcohol. One man died, and the driver is charged with manslaughter.Photo: CBS

Why are so many drivers are both drunk and stoned? In their fight for addiction equality with alcohol, the marijuana advocates pretend it’s either/or, not both. The reality is that stoners also tend to be heavier drinkers than the rest of us, too.   The other reality is that the shameless promotion of marijuana as an alternative is promoting the recreational use of pot and alcohol together.

Using marijuana within three hours of driving doubles the risk of having an accident.  Many marijuana DUID fatalities include stoned drivers who are also drunk.  Doing pot while drinking accelerates the effects of each and makes a driver way, way out of control.  The chances for an accident are so much stronger than it would be if a person had only been drinking or just smoking pot.   A driver who smelled of alcohol and had used marijuana probably caused a 6-car accident in Denver in August 3. One man died in the fiery wreck.

In Indiana, this past week, a man who used both marijuana and alcohol led police on a wild goose chase, crashed into a house and into a car killing two women.

Wrong way crash killed an off-duty policeman on in New York. Photo: Westchester12 News
Wrong way crash killed an off-duty policeman on in New York. Photo: Westchester12 News

Let’s not forget that the worst car accident in the US within the last decade involved a wrong-way driver who was both stoned and drunk.  It was the Taconic State Parkway crash in New York which killed 8, including 5 children, on July 26, 2009.  There’s much mystery as to why the driver, Diane Schuler, was so intoxicated, but it appears she was in pain. She used marijuana regularly to deal with insomnia.  Schuler, her 2-year old daughter and three men in the oncoming minivan died.  Her  nieces, Alyson, Katie and Emma Hance died, too, although Emma had just called her parents to warn that something was terribly wrong with Aunt Diane.

Recently, a wrong-way driver who was high on marijuana and may have been drunk killed an NYPD police officer on the Sprain Brook Parkway in New York.   Policeman Paul Duncan was 10 months away from retirement. (See photo above)

The driver of speedboat which crashed into a houseboat in British Columbia was drunk and had smoked pot. Photo: Kamloops Today
The driver of speedboat which crashed into a houseboat in British Columbia was drunk and had smoked pot. Photo: Kamloops Today. Photo on top is from News 12 Westchester. It shows the Sprain Brook Pkwy, NY, wrong-way crash on February 27 .

Stoned and Drunk Boating Accidents, Too

The marijuana – alcohol combination has also contributed to tragic boating accidents, like when a speedboat crashed into a houseboat in British Columbia.  Both the boat driver and the deceased had the deadly marijuana-alcohol combination.

In April there was a horrific boating accident in which 900 migrants going from Libya to Lampedusa, an island off Italy, perished.  According to reports, the two captains were like madmen, both drunk and stoned. “He was drunk and he smoked hashish while he was at the helm a little while before the boat hit the Portuguese container ship,” one survivor said.

 Stoned and Drugged, More Accidents

Many marijuana driving fatalities are caused by drivers on a cocktail of drugs in addition to pot.  The driver in a recent 3-car crash in Indiana had marijuana, Xanax and drug paraphernalia on him.

Two years ago, the crane operator in Philadelphia killed 6 people while high on marijuana and a codeine painkiller pill.  This accident highlights the difficulties in seeing proper perception of depth when stoned.  The crane operator hit the wall of the Salvation Army thrift store next to the  building he was demolishing. He had no intention to harm them.  Operating any type of heavy machinery  under the influence of drugs puts all of us in danger.

Demolished building in Philadelphia, July, 2013. Six died and 13 were injured in the accident. Photo: AP
Demolished building in Philadelphia, July, 2013. Six died and 13 were injured in the accident. Photo: AP

Some who died were quite young: Kimberly Finnegan,  Anne Bryan and Mary Simpson. Juanita Harmon was retired.  Borbor Davis and Roseline Conteh were immigrants from Liberia and Sierra Leone.   An additional 13 people suffered injuries in this accident.

We condemn those policies that pretend marijuana is an alternative to opiate abuse.  We condemn those shameless promoters who encourage people to use marijuana because it doesn’t cause toxic overdose as drinking can do.   Recent deaths have put a dent into that theory, however.

Instead of introducing and promoting marijuana as an herb from nature, and the huge profits that can be made, why isn’t the US embarking on a policy of discouraging addictive behaviors such as binge drinking, marijuana and opiate abuse?   That would be too easy.

(Other blog articles about traffic deaths caused by stoned driving include pedestrians and cyclists and the 5 deaths in Vancouver, Washington.)
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3 thoughts on “Stoned and Drunk is a Deadly Combination”

  1. While these stories have been cherry picked for purposes of fear mongering, I do strongly agree that when people get behind the wheel of a car they should NOT have alcohol, drugs, or weed in their system!

    Driving drunk, stoned or drugged is just plain reckless and stupid. For every weed related death, however, there are 1,000 alcohol related deaths. Perhaps your time would be better spent supporting mothers against drunk driving rather than pretending that stoned drivers are a problem that’s even close to being as bad as drunk drivers. Just a thought.

    1. We won’t advocate against drunk driving because MADD is doing a good job of it. We will advocate about stoned driving because places like Washington have a justice system that doesn’t take it seriously enough. Are they starting to at last? Let’s hope so. Pretty horrific deaths in Washington this year because so many people are getting away with stoned driving. Horrible.

      1. While I disagree with a lot of what you say I agree in this case. Drugs, and alcohol, and weed, have no place on the road, behind the wheel of a car. It Needs to be taken seriously. I do wish you would stop deleting opposing comments. Not just mine. Censorship is not a good step towards any kind of serious discussion. You could use your website for good, for sharing ideas and discussing solutions, not just one sided preaching.

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